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	<title>Comments on: Broken Windows and Card Payments Fraud</title>
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		<title>By: Scott Loftesness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Loftesness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comment.  

Your reminder about Gladwell telling the NYC story in Tipping Point is a good one.

I think another important issue in the US is the lack of a decision making group that can actually decide.  APACS played a key role in running the project office leading up to the UK decision and something similar happened with Interac in Canada.  There&#039;s nothing really similar (effectively &quot;above V/MC&quot;) in the US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment.  </p>
<p>Your reminder about Gladwell telling the NYC story in Tipping Point is a good one.</p>
<p>I think another important issue in the US is the lack of a decision making group that can actually decide.  APACS played a key role in running the project office leading up to the UK decision and something similar happened with Interac in Canada.  There&#8217;s nothing really similar (effectively &#8220;above V/MC&#8221;) in the US.</p>
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		<title>By: David Snyder</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Snyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very timely.  The topic came up at the BayPay meeting Tuesday night.  The attendees agreed there is no strictly financial business case to move to Chip and PIN in the US.   

As for the &quot;broken window&quot; concept, it reminds me of Malcolm Gladwell&#039;s observations in his &quot;Tipping Point&quot; book about crime in the NY subways before and after they made a concerted effort to clean up grafitti on the trains.  It&#039;s not just a matter of tolerating crime.  The fact that crime is tolerated encourages more, and of varied kinds.

Here&#039;s one more point about indirect impacts that might help make the case for trying to control fraud with Chip &amp; PIN or other techniques.  There seems to be increasing attention paid to fighting money laundering that feeds money to drug cartels and terrorist organizations.  Perhaps some research is needed on quantifying how much credit card fraud goes to fund other crime?  

By the way, I like Dave Birch&#039;s idea that we should be looking at a replacement for payment cards, instead of continuing to try to make old technology work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very timely.  The topic came up at the BayPay meeting Tuesday night.  The attendees agreed there is no strictly financial business case to move to Chip and PIN in the US.   </p>
<p>As for the &#8220;broken window&#8221; concept, it reminds me of Malcolm Gladwell&#8217;s observations in his &#8220;Tipping Point&#8221; book about crime in the NY subways before and after they made a concerted effort to clean up grafitti on the trains.  It&#8217;s not just a matter of tolerating crime.  The fact that crime is tolerated encourages more, and of varied kinds.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s one more point about indirect impacts that might help make the case for trying to control fraud with Chip &amp; PIN or other techniques.  There seems to be increasing attention paid to fighting money laundering that feeds money to drug cartels and terrorist organizations.  Perhaps some research is needed on quantifying how much credit card fraud goes to fund other crime?  </p>
<p>By the way, I like Dave Birch&#8217;s idea that we should be looking at a replacement for payment cards, instead of continuing to try to make old technology work.</p>
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		<title>By: susan champoion</title>
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		<dc:creator>susan champoion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think everyone is going in the wrong direction.  We are the only gateway that can  guarantee you will be 100% protected from hackers who try to steal credit card data through our Gateway. If data is stolen from our gateway, we will pay the fine incurred from cardholder associations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think everyone is going in the wrong direction.  We are the only gateway that can  guarantee you will be 100% protected from hackers who try to steal credit card data through our Gateway. If data is stolen from our gateway, we will pay the fine incurred from cardholder associations.</p>
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